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Cxb452 - 2024-08-03 @ 2:51 pm
12 hours ago, Jscott991 said:You probably won't see Wild Bill until 2026 at the earliest.
Agreed but hell show up at some point. I dont see the HISS tactician or gunner ever showing up. Theyre just unnecessary outside the Haslab.
Jscott991 - 2024-08-03 @ 2:21 am
3 minutes ago, Cxb452 said:I think we'll get a Wild Bill at some point as he was a fairly prominent character in the cartoon. Redeco'ed but we'll get another. The rest are either obscure characters or drivers that most fans don't feel are all that important.
You probably won't see Wild Bill until 2026 at the earliest.
Cxb452 - 2024-08-03 @ 2:17 am
1 hour ago, Jscott991 said:I don't think any of the Joe tiers are going to get re-released any time soon, unless you count Retro Cobra Commander (which is the Sunbow version) as ARAH Mickey Mouse Cobra Commander.
I think we'll get a Wild Bill at some point as he was a fairly prominent character in the cartoon. Redeco'ed but we'll get another. The rest are either obscure characters or drivers that most fans don't feel are all that important.
Jscott991 - 2024-08-03 @ 12:45 am
2 hours ago, Shrief said:My point exactly .... it's a deal of every thing or nothing .. and you shouldn't force collectors who want to buy one product .. to buy 5 products at a higher price point .. especially when you intend to rerelease those extra products individually the next year or so
I don't think any of the Joe tiers are going to get re-released any time soon, unless you count Retro Cobra Commander (which is the Sunbow version) as ARAH Mickey Mouse Cobra Commander.
Shrief - 2024-08-02 @ 10:38 pm
On 8/1/2024 at 10:08 PM, Jscott991 said:Many, many people back the HasLabs for the tiers even more than the vehicles, particularly in Classified and Star Wars HasLabs.
My point exactly .... it's a deal of every thing or nothing .. and you shouldn't force collectors who want to buy one product .. to buy 5 products at a higher price point .. especially when you intend to rerelease those extra products individually the next year or so
Jscott991 - 2024-08-01 @ 7:08 pm
26 minutes ago, Cxb452 said:If the HISS Haslab omitted the lights, the CC, the gunner and the tactician and gave us just the tank, the driver and the missiles and guns and sold it for $200 would you have backed it? I think many people would have. If they took the original concept of a vehicle and a driver with the required accessories (missiles or guns) and left off the lights gimmicks and said "here's a 1/12 scale HISS tank for $200" it would have funded twice as fast. And that's what they're forgetting. In lieu of building the brand and getting product into the hands of more consumer they went for greed.
I don't really agree. But it's ok. We can all have our own opinions.
Many, many people back the HasLabs for the tiers even more than the vehicles, particularly in Classified and Star Wars HasLabs.
Cxb452 - 2024-08-01 @ 6:41 pm
15 hours ago, Jscott991 said:And their future HasLabs would be severely undercut.
Despite Emily's weird insistence they could release the Hiss Tank in different colors down the road, it will never happen. Hasbro won't even put out that version of Madelyne Pryor from the failed Ghost Rider HasLab.
May I wasn't clear, but I think future Haslabs should strip away some of the fluff and at a lower price point they'd move more. This would put their products in the hands of more people and thereby increase the number of people who would buy future product.
Haslab was initially targeted to the products that were dream, blue sky endeavours. Jabba's sail barge was a dream project BUT it was not overstuffed with extras and premium (but otherwise unnecessary) accessories. There were no lights, or sounds. You got two figures, a nice paint job and fabric sails. Pretty much what you'd expect to get with a Star Wars vehicle. And many people's dreams were made a reality. I'd venture a guess and say a 1/12 scale HISS or Dragonfly or Rattler was a dream until a few years ago. I mean who was seriously expecting 1/12 scale large Joe vehicles when Classified started? I certainly wasn't. If the HISS Haslab omitted the lights, the CC, the gunner and the tactician and gave us just the tank, the driver and the missiles and guns and sold it for $200 would you have backed it? I think many people would have. If they took the original concept of a vehicle and a driver with the required accessories (missiles or guns) and left off the lights gimmicks and said "here's a 1/12 scale HISS tank for $200" it would have funded twice as fast. And that's what they're forgetting. In lieu of building the brand and getting product into the hands of more consumer they went for greed.
Shrief - 2024-08-01 @ 3:50 pm
12 hours ago, Jscott991 said:And their future HasLabs would be severely undercut.
Despite Emily's weird insistence they could release the Hiss Tank in different colors down the road, it will never happen. Hasbro won't even put out that version of Madelyne Pryor from the failed Ghost Rider HasLab.
Well .. it's their lost .. numbers don't lie.. they doing haslap projects for at maximum 30000 packers for 300$ with all that extra things not evey body wants ..but do it with less cost say 100$ : 150$ .. without extras .. more than 100000 at least will buy it .. do the math .. the haslap is just a way for quick gain .. at the expense ofcollectors
Jscott991 - 2024-08-01 @ 3:07 am
47 minutes ago, Cxb452 said:Oh I absolutely think Hasbro could put out a stripped down version of their Joe Haslabs. Take out the lights and cut down to just the driver and maybe reduce the number of accessories and I think Hasbro could move a lot more units. If they made Dragonfly that was reduced in extras to get the cost down to $150 I think they could move a hell of lot. I think if they just did that from the outset people would still back it. If they positioned it with no unlockable tiers, just the vehicle and driver, no lights/sounds and base accessories and listed it at $150 people would flock to it.
And their future HasLabs would be severely undercut.
Despite Emily's weird insistence they could release the Hiss Tank in different colors down the road, it will never happen. Hasbro won't even put out that version of Madelyne Pryor from the failed Ghost Rider HasLab.
Cxb452 - 2024-08-01 @ 2:18 am
1 hour ago, Shrief said:Okey .. fair enough .. why can't they do both .. to give more options to collectors and in the same time they double their wallets amounts .. everybody wins .. example : classified series haslap hiss tank was 300$ right .. remove the electronics, the tires,the extra figures .. and the cost can cutdown to 150$ .. WLA .. more people can get it .. options .. options is always good for everybody .. there's no reason why they can't pull this out
Oh I absolutely think Hasbro could put out a stripped down version of their Joe Haslabs. Take out the lights and cut down to just the driver and maybe reduce the number of accessories and I think Hasbro could move a lot more units. If they made Dragonfly that was reduced in extras to get the cost down to $150 I think they could move a hell of lot. I think if they just did that from the outset people would still back it. If they positioned it with no unlockable tiers, just the vehicle and driver, no lights/sounds and base accessories and listed it at $150 people would flock to it.
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